[logical]

Originally Posted by heinosuke1

When will the ceremonious naming of the cuemaker take place?

Translation takes time.

Sent from the future.

[CuesDirectly]

Originally Posted by Snooker Theory

If I was buying and looking to spend 500 to 600.

I'd personally hit up David at cues directly, not sure if he still does stuff in that price point, but what I have seen in person and the folks I talked to seemed to got a hell of a lot of cue for the money.

Thanks for that, very kind of you. I tried to give you some rep but it won't let me.

I build cues 8 days per week, nothing else.

My best advice is to buy from the person making the cue, speak Directly with the person doing all the work, hence the name, CuesDirectly.

Thanks again, Dave.

[CuesDirectly]

Originally Posted by Texas Carom Club

David makes a badass cue and is a top notch fella

Thanks, you guys sure make my coffee better this morning. I can't give you any rep either?

You're one guy on here who would make great cues if you ever got into it. You understand machining very well and that is such a plus. Did you ever make any carvings from the wood I sent you? I give away wood like that at times, it was some very nice wood but not wood for a cue. I seen a real nice carving the other day, went to forward it to you and couldn't find you.

Thanks again and again, Dave.

[Texas Carom Club]

Originally Posted by CuesDirectly

Thanks, you guys sure make my coffee better this morning. I can't give you any rep either?

You're one guy on here who would make great cues if you ever got into it. You understand machining very well and that is such a plus. Did you ever make any carvings from the wood I sent you? I give away wood like that at times, it was some very nice wood but not wood for a cue. I seen a real nice carving the other day, went to forward it to you and couldn't find you.

Thanks again and again, Dave.

The spare wood you sent me was nice
But too hard for carving! Something neat will come of them though you can bet

[Cornerman]

Originally Posted by heinosuke1

When will the ceremonious naming of the cuemaker take place?

When the cuemaker is ready. As I understood it, they wanted anonymity for their own personal reason. I hope they’re never ready to reveal. Not worth the hassle on this site.

[heinosuke1]

Originally Posted by Cornerman

When the cuemaker is ready. As I understood it, they wanted anonymity for their own personal reason. I hope they’re never ready to reveal. Not worth the hassle on this site.

Sounds completely above board.

/s

[logical]

Originally Posted by heinosuke1

Sounds completely above board.



/s

Riverdale High woodshop...class of '23.

Sent from the future.

[Seth C.]

Originally Posted by Cornerman

When the cuemaker is ready. As I understood it, they wanted anonymity for their own personal reason. I hope they’re never ready to reveal. Not worth the hassle on this site.

Addressing the last point first, how do requests for transparency and objections to misleading descriptions (even if not purposefully misleading) constitute hassling?

As for the cue maker, some questions come to mind. What led to his not being identified in the original marketing? A request by the marketer that the maker’s name go unmentioned and that the cues be marketed only as “Jackpot” cues? Or did the cue maker request anonymity? If he was the one who requested anonymity, why? If he did have some good reason, then okay, he had one - it’s just difficult to conceive.

But if he is the one who is objecting to the revelation of his name, and if his objection is a function of his having read or heard about the criticisms of the cues that have been written in this thread, well, he would be well-advised to explain either how the cues are not as described in these criticisms, or that he was commissioned to produce a certain level of product at a certain cost and that, at that cost, the highest quality finish cannot be produced (in a non-production shop) and should not be expected. In either event, he would be well-advised to speak up on his own behalf and defend his work, hassle though he might consider it to be. Done right, responding actually could be an excellent marketing opportunity for him.

[jimmyco]

Today is the day.



<<<<< ...bated breath.

[Cornerman]

Originally Posted by Seth C.

Addressing the last point first, how do requests for transparency and objections to misleading descriptions (even if not purposefully misleading) constitute hassling?

As for the cue maker, some questions come to mind. What led to his not being identified in the original marketing? A request by the marketer that the maker’s name go unmentioned and that the cues be marketed only as “Jackpot” cues? Or did the cue maker request anonymity? If he was the one who requested anonymity, why? If he did have some good reason, then okay, he had one - it’s just difficult to conceive.

But if he is the one who is objecting to the revelation of his name, and if his objection is a function of his having read or heard about the criticisms of the cues that have been written in this thread, well, he would be well-advised to explain either how the cues are not as described in these criticisms, or that he was commissioned to produce a certain level of product at a certain cost and that, at that cost, the highest quality finish cannot be produced (in a non-production shop) and should not be expected. In either event, he would be well-advised to speak up on his own behalf and defend his work, hassle though he might consider it to be. Done right, responding actually could be an excellent marketing opportunity for him.

And this is part of the hassle. You have this whole narrative, and it seems to be eating at you. For the past several years, Dean has been offering cues without photos and even without a cuemakers name. For $1000! I haven’t heard one person not being thrilled when they received their mystery cue.

Why are any of you surprised that this is any different? Buying from Dean is a gamble. If you don’t want to take the gamble, then don’t. It’s that simple. He’a not marketing some special line of cues. He got people to build cues, and he offered them up. Are people fixated on this glorious notion that they wanted a Jack Potter cue and they’re not built by Jack??? No disrespect to Jack, but he and Libre arent on my collection list. I want a Deanoc / Potter cue because Dean hasnt disappointed yet, and I thought this was a fun idea. I can only believe that the other ten or whatever people also viewed this as a fun gamble.

Yep, I thought it was fun. So much for that.

[garczar]

Originally Posted by Seth C.

Addressing the last point first, how do requests for transparency and objections to misleading descriptions (even if not purposefully misleading) constitute hassling?

As for the cue maker, some questions come to mind. What led to his not being identified in the original marketing? A request by the marketer that the maker’s name go unmentioned and that the cues be marketed only as “Jackpot” cues? Or did the cue maker request anonymity? If he was the one who requested anonymity, why? If he did have some good reason, then okay, he had one - it’s just difficult to conceive.

But if he is the one who is objecting to the revelation of his name, and if his objection is a function of his having read or heard about the criticisms of the cues that have been written in this thread, well, he would be well-advised to explain either how the cues are not as described in these criticisms, or that he was commissioned to produce a certain level of product at a certain cost and that, at that cost, the highest quality finish cannot be produced (in a non-production shop) and should not be expected. In either event, he would be well-advised to speak up on his own behalf and defend his work, hassle though he might consider it to be. Done right, responding actually could be an excellent marketing opportunity for him.

You a lawyer or just wanna be one?? Don't buy one.

[PRED]

I thought it might have been the boys at $ cues, the old McDaniel shop. Then I realized you can't hide their quality work as it would be a dead giveaway.

[Z-Nole]

sure seems like a whole lot of commotion and complaining for only $500. Seriously, $500?? The price of a shaft, right? Maybe I missed it but I haven't even seen a pic of any issues or anyone who owns one complaining. It's only $500, who gives a shit who made it? Especially if you don't own one.

[garczar]

Originally Posted by Z-Nole

sure seems like a whole lot of commotion and complaining for only $500. Seriously, $500?? The price of a shaft, right? Maybe I missed it but I haven't even seen a pic of any issues or anyone who owns one complaining. It's only $500, who gives a shit who made it? Especially if you don't own one.

Amen brother. I've never bought from deano but i like the guy and his selling method works for him. Don't want, don't buy. Just s^*tcan the drama.

[Bob Farr]

Originally Posted by jimmyco

Today is the day.



<<<<< ...bated breath.

The day for what?... I missed it....please tell me what is going to happen?