[Buster8001]

Originally Posted by Ipmtim

A whole lotta huffin and puffin from a bunch of guys with no skin in the game.
Also, add in a heap of spitballing as to what the real story is.
Call me anything you want but as JoeyInCali explained, sounds like a good value for a custom cue.
Deanoc, can't wait to get mine.

We're trying to protect the members at large from falling prey to shill business practices.
just as Joey, and everyone else seems to know, and you're denying, that these are in no way custom cues. There are 10 of the exact cue, maybe more, floating around, with another ten coming. A production outfit of some sort is behind this. There wasn't enough time from announcement to delivery for custom work. My father is currently venturing into cue making. And, even him as a new builder couldn't meet the time line. He might be able to meet the price. But, again, he's only a year into cue building.

[Texas Carom Club]

Bamboozled some might say

[Snooker Theory]

If I was buying and looking to spend 500 to 600.

I'd personally hit up David at cues directly, not sure if he still does stuff in that price point, but what I have seen in person and the folks I talked to seemed to got a hell of a lot of cue for the money compared to these Jackpots. I havent hit a Jackpot so I can't compare the two, but David makes a nice cue.

[Texas Carom Club]

David makes a badass cue and is a top notch fella

[JazzyJeff87]

Originally Posted by Snooker Theory

Don't want Leon to sue me, gotta avoid the libel, ROFLMAO, god wasn't Leon a toolbox in that thread, looks like we got another winner now though.

You got a link? I might want some morning reading tomorrow

[Snooker Theory]

Originally Posted by JazzyJeff87

You got a link? I might want some morning reading tomorrow

The original facebook posts have since been deleted, although I'll recap as best as I remember.

I think there are a couple screen captures in the thread or floating around. So Harris said he was building full cues for Sly and that Sly was selling them as if he built them himself, but he was upset because supposedly Sly hadnt paid him.

Harris said divney was a "cue assembler" who bought mitered boxes and some other stuff.

I thought it all bullshit until Leon freaked out and starting talking about sueing people on here and facebook, and then Ideologist posted screenshots basically confirming what Harris had said

Diveney simple responded "drunk" and never addressed it again on Harris's facebook post, not sure if he ever adressed it past that.

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=485457

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=485905

[Snooker Theory]

Ideologist pretty much KOed Leon with the information he posted, honestly the whole thing might have gotten brushed under the rug, or at least way less attention and much less traction.
Although after that Ko punch, there was no denying or going back, so it will be interesting to see how this thread plays out based off Ideologists comments in this thread

[JazzyJeff87]

Originally Posted by Snooker Theory

Ideologist pretty much KOed Leon with the information he posted, honestly the whole thing might have gotten brushed under the rug, or at least way less attention and much less traction.
Although after that Ko punch, there was no denying or going back, so it will be interesting to see how this thread plays out based off Ideologists comments in this thread

Thanks I’ll check them out. Curiosity and all that.

I was surprised how this thread took off. I heard some grumbling occasionally about these cues but then this thread came up and it was like whoa, people are mad

[Buster8001]

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Because a new builder either wouldn't know or wouldn't care about the movement of wood. Have you watched the videos of KCC hogging off inches of wood per pass on his mill?

Secondly, everyone who HONESTLY purchased a jackpot cue was scammed.

I rest well, thank you.

[oldroller]

I think i'll buy a Players cue and learn how to use it!!

[ideologist]

Originally Posted by Snooker Theory

Ideologist pretty much KOed Leon with the information he posted, honestly the whole thing might have gotten brushed under the rug, or at least way less attention and much less traction.
Although after that Ko punch, there was no denying or going back, so it will be interesting to see how this thread plays out based off Ideologists comments in this thread

I'm going to post a full review with detailed photos to show what Jack Potter's advisement gets you, and what Dean's marketing gets you

[Ipmtim]

Originally Posted by Buster8001

We're trying to protect the members at large from falling prey to shill business practices.
just as Joey, and everyone else seems to know, and you're denying, that these are in no way custom cues. There are 10 of the exact cue, maybe more, floating around, with another ten coming. A production outfit of some sort is behind this. There wasn't enough time from announcement to delivery for custom work. My father is currently venturing into cue making. And, even him as a new builder couldn't meet the time line. He might be able to meet the price. But, again, he's only a year into cue building.

I know exactly what I'm buying.
Thanks for your advice....and protection.

[speedy5963]

Originally Posted by Buster8001

Just received this rep message:

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Because a new builder either wouldn't know or wouldn't care about the movement of wood. Have you watched the videos of KCC hogging off inches of wood per pass on his mill?

Secondly, everyone who HONESTLY purchased a jackpot cue was scammed.

I rest well, thank you.

Regardless of the situation here your blanket statement about a "new builder" not knowing or caring isnt accurate, I know a guy who will be building cues and technically would be considered a "new builder" and has wood that has been being turned and hung for years. I have a cue him and I constructed 13 years ago and the shaft still spins better between centers than shafts I have and have had from some well acclaimed builders.

[RandyinHawaii]

I have stayed out of this, but I did buy one of the original Jackpot cues and have order in for another one out of the next batch and I don't feel scamed at all!!!!!!!!!!

Did you get one of the original cues to look at and try out? If not, how can you say everyone was scammed ?????

[heinosuke1]

When will the ceremonious naming of the cuemaker take place?