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8 ball rules situation - 02-03-2017, 08:02 PM

I've pocketed all of my solids and am shooting the 8 ball. Opponents stripe sits in the jaws of corner pocket and the 8 ball sits a couple of inches away. I call the 8 ball in that corner pocket. I hit the 8 ball which hits opponent's stripe ball. The 8 ball follows the stripe into the pocket - which I called. Is it a legal win for me or what? Opponent says not because his stripe was first into the pocket. I disagree because I hit the 8 ball first and it went into the called pocket.
  
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02-07-2017, 06:00 PM

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I've pocketed all of my solids and am shooting the 8 ball. Opponents stripe sits in the jaws of corner pocket and the 8 ball sits a couple of inches away. I call the 8 ball in that corner pocket. I hit the 8 ball which hits opponent's stripe ball. The 8 ball follows the stripe into the pocket - which I called. Is it a legal win for me or what? Opponent says not because his stripe was first into the pocket. I disagree because I hit the 8 ball first and it went into the called pocket.
In real pool rules, that is a win, if you call your pocket, and make a legal hit on the ball, whatever happens in between does not matter as long as it's legal. So you can't of-course call the ball, hit it and then grab your cue and guide the ball in with your shaft LOL

But you can play your ball off another players ball as long as you hit your ball with the cueball first (legal hit). In fact you can hit every ball on the table and go 3 rails with the object ball, but as long as it goes into the called pocket, it counts as a good shot.

Many people though don't know the real rules and play by "house" or "bar" rules, in those rules you may or may not be able to hit another ball. But since those rules are not official at all and vary from place to place and from player to player, going by the official rules makes things a lot easier. I mean how do you know what the other player thinks will be a legal hit or shot if 10 people think 5 different things about the rules? The official rules are not guesses and are easily available online.

Now if you had a last solid and made the shot but then hit the 8 by accident and that went in, that is a loss even though you made a legal shot on your ball. Early made 8 ball is a loss in every rule set I have seen.


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02-08-2017, 06:31 AM

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In real pool rules, that is a win, if you call your pocket, and make a legal hit on the ball, whatever happens in between does not matter as long as it's legal. So you can't of-course call the ball, hit it and then grab your cue and guide the ball in with your shaft LOL

But you can play your ball off another players ball as long as you hit your ball with the cueball first (legal hit). In fact you can hit every ball on the table and go 3 rails with the object ball, but as long as it goes into the called pocket, it counts as a good shot.

Many people though don't know the real rules and play by "house" or "bar" rules, in those rules you may or may not be able to hit another ball. But since those rules are not official at all and vary from place to place and from player to player, going by the official rules makes things a lot easier. I mean how do you know what the other player thinks will be a legal hit or shot if 10 people think 5 different things about the rules? The official rules are not guesses and are easily available online.

Now if you had a last solid and made the shot but then hit the 8 by accident and that went in, that is a loss even though you made a legal shot on your ball. Early made 8 ball is a loss in every rule set I have seen.
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I have been having a heck of a time with my old school russian neighbor on the rules. He is a old school bar playing guy and it took over a week to get him to come around to real pool rules. He wanted to call every little kiss etc. He still has trouble with the 'must hit a rail AFTER contact' rule and I catch him on it now and then. Its really frustrating though to say the least
  
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02-16-2017, 09:59 AM

Its a win. If he disagrees buy a rule book and show him.
  
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02-16-2017, 11:52 AM

congratulations on your win


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