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05-27-2016, 03:23 PM
I was reading in a Billiards Digest from July 2007 where Jeanette Lee said you should have a follow through of 12 to 18 inches.
Seriously? Or did I read that wrong?
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05-27-2016, 04:17 PM
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I was reading in a Billiards Digest from July 2007 where Jeanette Lee said you should have a follow through of 12 to 18 inches.
Seriously? Or did I read that wrong?
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Is this on the break or in general? I looked up a match of hers and she didn't follow through much, maybe a couple inches in that particular match (at least from what I watched). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9Zgcj14aM
Follow through is essentially about timing and allowing the cue to come to a natural finish so you aren't decelerating into the ball. 12-18 inches artificially extends the follow through and does nothing for you.
I'd say on most shots I'm about 2-4 inches, and power shots maybe 4-6 inches. I haven't measured so I'm guessing.
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05-27-2016, 04:55 PM
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Is this on the break or in general? I looked up a match of hers and she didn't follow through much, maybe a couple inches in that particular match (at least from what I watched). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9Zgcj14aM
Follow through is essentially about timing and allowing the cue to come to a natural finish so you aren't decelerating into the ball. 12-18 inches artificially extends the follow through and does nothing for you.
I'd say on most shots I'm about 2-4 inches, and power shots maybe 4-6 inches. I haven't measured so I'm guessing. |
This is key. Like the most important part, and it can differ from person to person.
I just recorded a video of myself on the kitchen table with a ruler. I used two different grip positions/bridge lengths, and both times my follow through was about 6.25"
For me, my natural finish is when my grip hand goes slightly past my chest (doesn't hit my chest). It's just a natural motion of the arm closing as much as it can. If I don't close it enough, my stroke feels jerky and if I follow past the natural finish it goes off line. I would classify my stroke as a J-Stroke (Pendulum with Elbow Drop after Contact).
And in the few minutes it took to type all that my video is uploaded.
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05-27-2016, 04:57 PM
But to answer the OP's question, I have to imagine Jeanette may have been talking about the break. I can't see her (or anyone) saying you should follow through 12 to 18 inches on a normal shot.
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05-27-2016, 06:29 PM
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Is this on the break or in general?
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I just went and looked. Billiards Digest, June 2007, page 16, down at the bottom. She says 12-18 inches on every shot.
No wonder she wasn't getting much business on that Jeanette Lee Experience adventure of hers.
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05-27-2016, 06:43 PM
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I just went and looked. Billiards Digest, June 2007, page 16, down at the bottom. She says 12-18 inches on every shot.
No wonder she wasn't getting much business on that Jeanette Lee Experience adventure of hers.
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Maybe it was a typo or she misspoke. I dont' think Sigel who has one of the biggest elbow drops in the game had a follow through that long.
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05-27-2016, 07:53 PM
Poolplayers, even pros, CAN learn something new...if you have an open mind. Since that article was published, Jeanette has spent considerable time with Jerry Briesath, and now shoots with a pretty smooth finish juat a few inches past the CB. If you watch her newest video, she comments about the finish, and how an extended finish isn't needed or required.
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Originally Posted by DrCue'sProtege
I just went and looked. Billiards Digest, June 2007, page 16, down at the bottom. She says 12-18 inches on every shot.
No wonder she wasn't getting much business on that Jeanette Lee Experience adventure of hers.
r/Mike
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05-27-2016, 08:47 PM
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Poolplayers, even pros, CAN learn something new...if you have an open mind. Since that article was published, Jeanette has spent considerable time with Jerry Briesath, and now shoots with a pretty smooth finish juat a few inches past the CB. If you watch her newest video, she comments about the finish, and how an extended finish isn't needed or required.
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For those interested, I believe this is the video Scott is referencing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL_DvTmCJfM
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05-28-2016, 02:29 AM
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thanks for the link
i enjoyed the video
the analogy with the baby on the swing was one i never heard before
and a good one
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05-28-2016, 04:18 AM
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the analogy with the baby on the swing was one i never heard before
and a good one
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There are a lot of golfers who could learn something from this video 
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05-28-2016, 04:23 AM
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Thanks for the link. It has been bookmarked.
One of the things she mentions in this video is when she was not hitting the balls well she didn't know what to fix.
Learning the correct fundamentals and being able to repeat them for this game is a long process. That's why conscious effort must be made during practice sessions to perfect each part of the fundamentals until they become automatic and are no longer given any conscious thought. The nice thing about this is when your game is off you can recognize what needs to be fixed.
What I do is practice my fundamentals consciously about 10 hours a week. On Fridays I meet with a friend to play for about four hours not giving any conscious thought to anything accept put the ball in the whole and put the QB there. Its like shooting pool with your sub-conscious.
If I should have a break down in my fundamentals during play. I now know what I need to focus on during practice.
Back on topic. To me the follow thru and power is a feel thing depending on the shot, it could be anywhere from 1" to 12". I always finish and try to use the same cue stick speed. This has me changing my grip placement on the cue for just about every shot and still come to the same finish point.
Have fun out there.
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05-28-2016, 05:44 PM
Actually it isn't! That's an instructional video JL made for the APA. I was talking about her own instructional video. Nonetheless, both make some good points. 
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05-28-2016, 07:52 PM
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Actually it isn't! That's an instructional video JL made for the APA. I was talking about her own instructional video. Nonetheless, both make some good points.
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Thanks for clarifying, Scott.
Do you know where one could purchase her instructional video?
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05-29-2016, 11:53 AM
Try any billiards supply store...Seyberts, Ozone, etc. I think you can buy if from her website too... www.blackwidowbilliards.com
EDIT...Hmmm...I looked at all three places, and did NOT see her video for sale, even on her own site. That's strange.
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Thanks for clarifying, Scott.
Do you know where one could purchase her instructional video?
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05-29-2016, 12:56 PM
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Try any billiards supply store...Seyberts, Ozone, etc. I think you can buy if from her website too... www.blackwidowbilliards.com
EDIT...Hmmm...I looked at all three places, and did NOT see her video for sale, even on her own site. That's strange.
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No worries. Thanks anyways.
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