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Band Saw - 10-27-2020, 03:58 PM

What's the ideal size Band saw for cuemaking?
  
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10-27-2020, 04:00 PM

Most cue makers I know (myself included) use 14 and 17 bandsaws.


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10-27-2020, 04:49 PM

DoAll 16" min. 3/4" blade

Variable speed can cut metal or wood (specific band needed for each)


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10-27-2020, 05:53 PM

at least a 14 inch............ Grizzly has a very nice one and is prices lower than all the others.............. look at the G0555

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10-27-2020, 10:10 PM

A 10 inch is good for some jobs with a fine blade.
  
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10-27-2020, 10:40 PM

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A 10 inch is good for some jobs with a fine blade.
The 10" is a very handy tool to have in the shop for sure, probably use it more often than the 14" and sometimes I wish I had something bigger than the 14".

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10-27-2020, 11:05 PM

14" or more for woods.
Remember handles are 17" long ( most ) .

Have a 9" band saw with BI-METAL blade. Use that for plastics, aluminum, brass, G-10 and phenolics . NEVER use the good blade for woods on metals and phenolics . A mounted Porta band saw would work too.

Have a chop saw and miter saw as well. You will eventually need them. And you can get them for a song on Craigslist .
  
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10-28-2020, 07:01 AM

I have a 16 inch Grizzly and can cut 15 inches on it with the 5 inch tall custom fence I put on it. It is the minimum size I would want, unless I needed a light duty small one for a specific process that uses smaller and therefore cheaper blades.
  
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10-28-2020, 07:46 AM

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What's the ideal size Band saw for cuemaking?
What do you plan to do with it?

I'm not primarily a cue maker, my saws are 30" & 36". (30" is user past 40 years, 36" is project). My metal cutting BS is only 14". Since i do make cues, it is hard for me to think of anything cue related that requires deeper than a 6" cut? Any good machine with truly round wheels, solid construction & table, that can be easily, reliably squared, with good guides, 12" or larger wheels should work. So one of the better 14", or preferably 16". 20" if you can swing it, & don't pass up a 24" if the condition and price are right.

I really like the inertia and smoothness of bandsaws once they get past 16" & up.

As saws increase in size, so do the tables. That can be a welcome advantage if you tend to add a lot of fixturing or sleds for your work. Say for FS construction. Or need to bust up logs, e.g. (blackwood, snakewood, etc)

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10-28-2020, 03:22 PM

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What's the ideal size Band saw for cuemaking?
I want to cut Steel and wood. And every operation that I can't do on a table saw. Need general helpful information in which saw and size of saw and blades and brands of both or at least where to buy them.
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10-28-2020, 03:26 PM

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I have a 16 inch Grizzly and can cut 15 inches on it with the 5 inch tall custom fence I put on it. It is the minimum size I would want, unless I needed a light duty small one for a specific process that uses smaller and therefore cheaper blades.
What are the dimensions (lengths) of your forearms and handles etc.?

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10-28-2020, 03:28 PM

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14" or more for woods.
Remember handles are 17" long ( most ) .

Have a 9" band saw with BI-METAL blade. Use that for plastics, aluminum, brass, G-10 and phenolics . NEVER use the good blade for woods on metals and phenolics . A mounted Porta band saw would work too.

Have a chop saw and miter saw as well. You will eventually need them. And you can get them for a song on Craigslist .
Joey, Thanks for all the help you've given me through the years.
I'm changing everything I've done before because I'm trying to just be a hobbyist and make ten or so cues a year.
  
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10-28-2020, 04:06 PM

Do you shop auctions, or plan to buy retail?

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I want to cut Steel and wood. And every operation that I can't do on a table saw.
I hope it is not insulting as to what you already know: keep in mind that wood cutting saws tend to run somewhere over 3,000 ft/min band speed. Bigger/"commercial" tend to run around 4,500 fpm.

Unfortunately, steel is cut with band speeds slightly under 100 ft/min. Stainless, maybe even less. Depending whether you are using carbon steel bands, or HSS. Hence, to cut steel on a bandsaw tends to require a gearbox and several speed ranges.

I sometimes saw aluminum on my woodworking bandsaws, but as others noted, never with a good blade - it will dull it for fine wood cutting. For that matter, I sometimes saw aluminum up on one of the table saws. Again, not with a good blade that will be used with wood. All due safe practices observed, of course.

Where this is going: if you are stuck on one saw to do it all, get a good one proven to be convenient to change over, and proven to be a good performer in both roles. The classic machine would be a 16" DoALL, or a Grob (still made in USA!) Some Grobs do have weird guides, which may or may not be an advantage. They can also be changed.

At a lower price point, Rockwell Delta's 14" wood-metal cutting saw is highly respected. So is their 20" version. Powermatic made analogs of both, and may be even slightly better but a little less common.

It might be cheaper and more convenient in use, to get a 14" metal cutting saw, and a 16" or larger wood cutting saw. It is a real nuisance to clean the cutting fluid off a machine after sawing steel, change the blade, change the guides or at least the guide setting, re- set the speeds, and then saw wood. Let alone if you have to go back & forth a few times a day.

To get the best performance out of a bandsaw especially in wood cutting mode does involve a deeper understanding of machine factors and "tuning" or set up, than say a table saw.

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