[HawaiianEye]

Originally Posted by Black-Balled

Maybe we can collect donations for you instead. Soap and water is no good for a pool player's hands.

Thanks a lot.

That suitcase full of wet, soapy quarters puts my luggage over the weight limit at the airlines.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by iusedtoberich

Glen's been posting this format for 10 or so years now. I doubt anyone here believes he's going to actually ever get it off the ground. But the FB group is the younger new members. Do they believe him?

I think this plan could work, but the real question is whether anyone will be interested in seeing it. Without an audience, it is worthless to sponsors. He talks about a Chinese streaming service:

And what if Tencent in China, the Netflix of China, was willing to pay $200M for a 2 year, exclusive streaming contract for the content ...

I have never heard of China paying much attention to American pool, but I suppose it is possible.

The other thing is that if the money is going to come from sponsors/audience there is no real need to have 4000 players. You are not going to be streaming 256 matches any time soon and if you did 240 of the matches would have fewer than 10 viewers.

I think 64 is about the right number of players as far as an international event that is based on viewership is concerned. Any players beyond that just get underfoot.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by iusedtoberich

This is kind of like Hopkin's Million Dollar Tournament. Where he figured 200 players would put up 5,000 each. Well, 12 total players put up the money, with one being Hopkins himself. Corey beat Shane in the finals, and won a bracelet with 1MM inscribed on it.
...

Glen's plan is very different. It's only $100 to get in. The added money is about ten times the entry fees. The money odds are good. Hopkins' event was player-financed, I believe, with no added money.

I think lots of players will figure they can beat #2000 in the world in the first round of a single-elimination event at which point they get their entry fee back plus enough for two nights in the motel. (No seeding in the draws.) $500 back for win-win-loss.

But the major sticking point I see is getting the $4,000,000 or so sponsorship money for each event. So far as I can tell, that has not happened.

There are lots of minor details, such as the months of preparation by paid staff and buying and installing the tables.

[Chili Palmer]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

I think this plan could work, but the real question is whether anyone will be interested in seeing it. Without an audience, it is worthless to sponsors. He talks about a Chinese streaming service:

And what if Tencent in China, the Netflix of China, was willing to pay $200M for a 2 year, exclusive streaming contract for the content ...

I have never heard of China paying much attention to American pool, but I suppose it is possible.

The other thing is that if the money is going to come from sponsors/audience there is no real need to have 4000 players. You are not going to be streaming 256 matches any time soon and if you did 240 of the matches would have fewer than 10 viewers.

I think 64 is about the right number of players as far as an international event that is based on viewership is concerned. Any players beyond that just get underfoot.

I don't think it will work long-term, there simply isn't enough people willing to pay $100 to travel to a single elimination tournament. They might try it for the novelty but if someone goes one and out what are the chances they would return. There needs to be more incentive IMHO. Second chance tourney's, exhibitions by pros, merchant booths (which he said would not happen).

I live close so I'd go in a heartbeat but I'm not sure I would travel very far for a single elimination tournament.

[Chili Palmer]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

Glen's plan is very different. It's only $100 to get in. The added money is about ten times the entry fees. The money odds are good. Hopkins' event was player-financed, I believe, with no added money.

I think lots of players will figure they can beat #2000 in the world in the first round of a single-elimination event at which point they get their entry fee back plus enough for two nights in the motel. (No seeding in the draws.) $500 back for win-win-loss.

But the major sticking point I see is getting the $4,000,000 or so sponsorship money for each event. So far as I can tell, that has not happened.

There are lots of minor details, such as the months of preparation by paid staff and buying and installing the tables.

Agreed, and someone has to run all that video equipment.

Whoever the backers are they have put a lot of stock in this, I hope they get the views they need to succeed.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by Chili Palmer

... there simply isn't enough people willing to pay $100 to travel to a single elimination tournament. ... Second chance tourney's, exhibitions by pros, merchant booths (which he said would not happen).... .

Is there no other space in Nampa that is available to rent where some enterprising person could give the pool players what they actually want as opposed to what Glen wants?

4000 pool players with nothing to do for a week. Think about it.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by Chili Palmer

... Whoever the backers are they have put a lot of stock in this, I hope they get the views they need to succeed.

One of us is confused. What has actually happened so far? From what I've read, there is no contract, there is no agreement, there is no lease on the space, there is no 501c3, there is no....

"backers are" implies that there are backers. Why do you believe that?

[HawaiianEye]

I wish y'all would get this figured out before I put all these quarters into the pin ball machine.

[Boxcar]

This thread belongs in The AZB Joke Forum.

[Buzzard II]

Chili and Robin believe because they trust RKC. Therefore it is.

[336Robin]

Originally Posted by Buzzard II

Chili and Robin believe because they trust RKC. Therefore it is.

I've got a dollar on Hawaiian's entry. I get 20% right?

[JoeyInCali]

If it's for a non-profit organization, it should be called a charity.
Not a business.

[Chili Palmer]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

One of us is confused. What has actually happened so far? From what I've read, there is no contract, there is no agreement, there is no lease on the space, there is no 501c3, there is no....

"backers are" implies that there are backers. Why do you believe that?

I was referring to the money he said is/will be in escrow. I couldn't find the original post but below is a screenshot where he mentions it again.

Whether it's in escrow now or will be, I have no idea. I didn't say anything about a lease but he did say the landlord needs 5 months to setup the building and I believe the 501c3 is setup. I know the core company is setup but I do not know if it has gone through the 501.c process yet.

Originally Posted by Buzzard II

Chili and Robin believe because they trust RKC. Therefore it is.

Actually, he mentioned something like this about a year ago via email to me but the reality of those details was so far fetched I didn't think it was feasible and told him so at the time. This format is a bit different and although I'm still very skeptical it appears he has put things in motion for it to happen so I guess it's a hope for the best and plan for normal?

[ghost ball]

Will these tournaments be played with or without rails?

[SpiderWeb]

Originally Posted by BasementDweller

RKC running tourneys with Robin as his PR guy. The pool world almost needs this to happen...just because it's pool. Almost

You are on those smart pills again. U know who the TD is unless the snake takes a sharp turn and sends the TD in for emergency nose job. Is CJ in on this pie in the sky deal too?