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10-21-2020, 06:05 PM

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I tried it this way. Didnt seem to enhance the drill one way or another. I believe I will stick with the two balls next to each other.

Either way, my success rate isnt very good doing this. I dont know what the problem is. Its got to be one of three things:
1) Bad alignment
2) Bad aim
3) Bad stroke

I am inclined to believe its a faulty stroke. Or just lack of ability, I suppose.

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Try aligning the stick as you stand eyeballing the shot. IOW putting the stick exactly on the shot; tip resting on the table, backhand in contact with the cloth. Now get down without moving the stick. The shot will probably look different than if you got down with your normal routine. Reason says you did the geometry correctly therefore...
  
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10-23-2020, 04:21 AM

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I tried it this way. Didnt seem to enhance the drill one way or another. I believe I will stick with the two balls next to each other.

Either way, my success rate isnt very good doing this. I dont know what the problem is. Its got to be one of three things:
1) Bad alignment
2) Bad aim
3) Bad stroke

I am inclined to believe its a faulty stroke. Or just lack of ability, I suppose.

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at least you tried it
thanks for trying and posting your results.....
  
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10-23-2020, 12:53 PM

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I tried it this way. Didnt seem to enhance the drill one way or another. I believe I will stick with the two balls next to each other.
Try Bob's suggestion (marking the center of the pocket and watching how close you come to it) and let us know what you think.

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10-23-2020, 05:04 PM

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Here is a drill that I think will give better results in pocketing accuracy faster and easier:

Mark the centers of all six pockets with donuts. There is a single spot on the cloth which can the be target for all shots to each pocket.

Play whichever drill you want but on every shot note how close you came to driving the the object ball over the center of the donut.

I hope everyone can see the advantages of working on pocketing accuracy this way rather than by putting up guard/gate balls.
A development of this drill would be to aim the edge of the ball to the corresponding facing and varying points on it, out to the tits. Doing this gives tangible to exact feedback
  
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10-23-2020, 05:16 PM

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A development of this drill would be to aim the edge of the ball to the corresponding facing and varying points on it, out to the tits. Doing this gives tangible to exact feedback
I think the single point in the pocket for all shots is a better way to do it rather than have multiple targets changing for each shot. I think that most people are sending the center of the object ball in a certain direction rather than an edge.


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10-23-2020, 05:46 PM

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I think the single point in the pocket for all shots is a better way to do it rather than have multiple targets changing for each shot. I think that most people are sending the center of the object ball in a certain direction rather than an edge.
True and most of the issue. Cognizance of the swath of the object ball is fundamental to precise cueing.
  
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10-23-2020, 05:48 PM

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True and most of the issue. Cognizance of the swath of the object ball is fundamental to precise cueing.
So if you can get the object ball to curve is it swath buckling?
  
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10-23-2020, 08:18 PM

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So if you can get the object ball to curve is it swath buckling?
Not unless you can produce a distinct kink in the trajectory. John Schmitt has demonstrated this abillty on video.
  
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Mark all 6 Pockets - 10-25-2020, 05:09 PM

Just for giggles I marked all 6 pockets with donuts placed in the center of the entrance of the pockets. The thing that is amazing is being able to see the spot on the object ball so much better.
  
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10-25-2020, 05:19 PM

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Just for giggles I marked all 6 pockets with donuts placed in the center of the entrance of the pockets. The thing that is amazing is being able to see the spot on the object ball so much better.
Does it also make adjusting for throw more conscious?

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10-25-2020, 07:19 PM

I will think a out that. But it sure makes ball pocketing much easier to see if that makes sense.
  
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10-26-2020, 07:20 AM

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The two balls are positioned where there is about an inch to spare, about a half inch on both side. Shoot the 6B down through the 1B and 3B with follow, stun, and draw. And FYI, this is indeed a straight-in shot.

So, Instructors and knowledgeable posters......is there any benefit to shooting this drill?

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10-26-2020, 08:06 AM

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I have no idea Fran. I do remember seeing this similar version in a pool magazine article by Mark Wilson. Its where you shoot the CB through two object balls. I just modified it so you were actually shooting a ball through the two object balls.

I assume you dont like it?

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10-26-2020, 08:40 AM

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I have no idea Fran. I do remember seeing this similar version in a pool magazine article by Mark Wilson. Its where you shoot the CB through two object balls. I just modified it so you were actually shooting a ball through the two object balls.

I assume you dont like it?

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It's just a drill. Sheesh. I've used coat hangars bent into croquet type gates. You wanna talk tough pockets... lol...
  
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10-26-2020, 01:42 PM

Making it through the gate puts you in the pocket by default, but I don't see how it teaches you to aim at the pocket when the gate isn't there.

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