[David in FL]

My initial thought is the other stuff.

I’m headed to the pool room tomorrow and I’ll see if I can implement it in any way shape or form…

[iusedtoberich]

I tried it on my table with two furniture sliders with a small dot drawn on the perimeter.

For nearly full hits, it pocketed the ball.

For cut shots, it hits the OB too fat, and missed the ball.

The thinner the cut shot, the fatter it hit.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by iusedtoberich

... The thinner the cut shot, the fatter it hit.

What if the cue ball is close to the object ball --say much closer than the distance to the pocket?

[Vorpal Cue]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

What if the cue ball is close to the object ball --say much closer than the distance to the pocket?

The accuracy will increase as the distance between the balls decrease. The point on the CB will be closer to the actual CP needed. For a straight in shot it will be the proper CP regardless of distance.

The system needs some corn for texture though.

[BilliardsAbout]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

But is it Shinola or the other stuff? That's the question.

Shinola. I've not seen this system named, that I can recall. Starts with objective points on tte balls, then subjective adjustments are made.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by BilliardsAbout

Shinola. ...

Nope. Maybe you don't know the reference: "He can't tell the difference between $#!T and Shinola." In this reference, "Shinola" is not the luxury goods company that was founded about a decade ago, but rather refers to a brand of "shoe polish" which is a waxy substance people used to rub on their shoes back when shoes were made of leather in order to make them look better and to protect them from the elements. Here is an example excellent product from the company:



How soon will all the shoe shine stands disappear now that Shinola is gone?

I suppose the reference could be transferred now to the new company since it seems to sell high-quality goods.

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by Vorpal Cue

... The system needs some corn for texture though.

EEuuwwwh! Gross.

[Bob Jewett]

For those who did not follow the description in words, here is a little help. I have marked the nearest point to the pocket on the cue ball and the farthest point from the pocket on two object balls. One shot is a straight in and the other is a cut.



The lines are just there to show how the dots got on the balls.

[garczar]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

And I'm just saying if you want to understand this sort of question about aiming systems or anything else, it will be better for you to work it out on your own. My description was complete enough, as PJ pointed out.

Try to come up with your own drawing. I'll post a drawing in four days.

WTF????? What's with all the subterfuge??? FOUR days????? Just spill it Professor.

[Imac007]

Originally Posted by Bob Jewett

It's got nothing to do with Joe Tucker or parallel aiming. I'm not asking about other systems. I'm asking about the system I described above.

Can anyone figure out how good or bad it is? Did anyone understand my description or should I post a drawing?

The description given will only even hit the ob directly if the balls are within a balls width of straight.

[BC21]

On paper it looks like it would work on close up shots, at about any angle, as long as the cb and ob are no more than a couple of inches from each other. The shots come off thicker and thicker as the cb gets farther away from the ob.

[Patrick Johnson]

Originally Posted by Imac007

The description given will only even hit the ob directly if the balls are within a balls width of straight.

It will hit the OB every time - too much of it, in fact.

It will only make the OB when they're nearly straight.

pj
chgo

[Patrick Johnson]

Originally Posted by BC21

On paper it looks like it would work on close up shots, at about any angle, as long as the cb and ob are no more than a couple of inches from each other. The shots come off thicker and thicker as the cb gets farther away from the ob.

Yes, because the farther they are apart the greater the difference in their angles to the pocket and the greater the offset between their aim points.

pj
chgo

[Bob Jewett]

Originally Posted by Imac007

The description given will only even hit the ob directly if the balls are within a balls width of straight.

Which step do you think is missing in the description?

I have marked the spots on the balls in the diagram. The third step was:

Send those two spots directly at each other.

I'm having a very hard time seeing how the cue ball will avoid hitting the object ball directly.

[Vorpal Cue]

Drew a blue line between the red points. Found the center of the cue ball and marked it with another red dot. Drew red line parallel to desired blue contact point line past the cue ball to show aiming line. Looks like a little more than a half ball hit on a 60* shot.