[Buster8001]

Moved this here, where it belongs:

Originally Posted by deanoc

Thank you fellowws

I am going to admit something to you guys
I am very guilty of spamming in the main forum

I got diabetes and take glimeperide and something else that was almost the same

my head got funny,not that I don't get aggresive anyway

but i offended some people and rightly so,some decent people
some jerks

They are mad and getting out of line suggesting i am a crook

If this was done at the pool room it would be over by now


I talked to Tate ,heto explain and reconcile

When I asked him why he was attackingme for being a crook
he said he was just having fun,he knew I was a man of integrity
anyway I am open for business

Does anyone want my Balabushka

I am selling cheap

Dean
214 477 7323


PS those guys you mentioned were too expensive and busy to help me
, but later I will tell you my cue maker


I did not think it was unusual or that anyone would find it so

They did,although I think it was my reckless marketing that fueled the hatred

I am thinking about inviting everyone on here over for cool aid and brownies
and perhaps some high dollar one pocket

This is yet another spam post in a section in which it doesn't belong.
You'd be better off reading posts instead of writing them. Then, you may just figure out why people are irritated.

This belongs in the main forum.

Lastly, if the cue builders are such big names, then why are the cues so under finished? Did their current orders slide to accommodate your builds? For the record, I'm not saying one wouldn't enjoy one of these, or that they don't play well. Both very well may be true. However, facts remain; a so called big builder(s) let under finished cues out of their shop, paying orders for customs slid, you made a complete shill of a marketing campaign, and you continue to spam the board.

For those coming to Deans aid: his past sales and exploits have no bearing on this subject. Jeff Forney had several successful sales before the bait-n-switch.

[peterskw]

Why do you say the cue is under finished? Every review I've read said there were no imperfections--the finish is perfect.

KP

Originally Posted by Buster8001

Moved this here, where it belongs:



This is yet another spam post in a section in which it doesn't belong.
You'd be better off reading posts instead of writing them. Then, you may just figure out why people are irritated.

This belongs in the main forum.

Lastly, if the cue builders are such big names, then why are the cues so under finished? Did their current orders slide to accommodate your builds? For the record, I'm not saying one wouldn't enjoy one of these, or that they don't play well. Both very well may be true. However, facts remain; a so called big builder(s) let under finished cues out of their shop, paying orders for customs slid, you made a complete shill of a marketing campaign, and you continue to spam the board.

For those coming to Deans aid: his past sales and exploits have no bearing on this subject. Jeff Forney had several successful sales before the bait-n-switch.

[Kickin' Chicken]

Originally Posted by penguin

You fail to understand 2 very important points

1. Dean has enough money that he is free from consequence.

2. AzBilliards is full of suckers when it comes to cue buying.

as to point # 1: Having money doesn't always protect one from getting a bad rep.

as to point # 2: This is not lost on me, at all

[Black-Balled]

Originally Posted by peterskw

Why do you say the cue is under finished? Every review I've read said there were no imperfections--the finish is perfect.

KP

Documentation supporting the claim that quality is sub-par would go a long way.

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by Black-Balled

Documentation supporting the claim that quality is sub-par would go a long way.

So many pages....so few pictures.

Hell, this whole thread could wind down with a mere two words. Dean, fill in the blanks: The Jackpot cues were actually made by ______ ______.

Why wait two days before revealing this information?

Maniac

[Black-Balled]

Originally Posted by Maniac

So many pages....so few pictures.

Hell, this whole thread could wind down with a mere two words. Dean, fill in the blanks: The Jackpot cues were actually made by ______ ______.

Why wait two days before revealing this information?

Maniac

Who knows? Is it that difficult to take the position that there is a good reason, and if you were the one making it, youd have the same reasoning/conclusion?

Its a couple days. Bonerus Ball lasted longer than that.

[JoeyInCali]

Originally Posted by Buster8001

Moved this here, where it belongs:



This is yet another spam post in a section in which it doesn't belong.
You'd be better off reading posts instead of writing them. Then, you may just figure out why people are irritated.

This belongs in the main forum.

Lastly, if the cue builders are such big names, then why are the cues so under finished? Did their current orders slide to accommodate your builds? For the record, I'm not saying one wouldn't enjoy one of these, or that they don't play well. Both very well may be true. However, facts remain; a so called big builder(s) let under finished cues out of their shop, paying orders for customs slid, you made a complete shill of a marketing campaign, and you continue to spam the board.

For those coming to Deans aid: his past sales and exploits have no bearing on this subject. Jeff Forney had several successful sales before the bait-n-switch.

For $500-$600 retail, no big named maker is going to touch the whole deal.
Please. I'm just talking reality.
Not even mid-tier makers .
There are a few midtech or factory makers out there.
Pechauer, Schmelke or maybe even Jacoby .

A local maker in the area, maybe.
But, for less than $500 to him ? Good shafts alone are $150-$200 each.
Finish work ? Add another $150-$200. Some charge double that . It's a lot of work.
Ebony front ? That's a $200 up charge.

[Ipmtim]

A whole lotta huffin and puffin from a bunch of guys with no skin in the game.
Also, add in a heap of spitballing as to what the real story is.
Call me anything you want but as JoeyInCali explained, sounds like a good value for a custom cue.
Deanoc, can't wait to get mine.

[Gatto138]

Originally Posted by JoeyInCali

For $500-$600 retail, no big named maker is going to touch the whole deal.
Please. I'm just talking reality.
Not even mid-tier makers .
There are a few midtech or factory makers out there.
Pechauer, Schmelke or maybe even Jacoby .

A local maker in the area, maybe.
But, for less than $500 to him ? Good shafts alone are $150-$200 each.
Finish work ? Add another $150-$200. Some charge double that . It's a lot of work.
Ebony front ? That's a $200 up charge.

I know right? What’s even fishier time me is that I was offered one for $250

[ribdoner]

Originally Posted by Buster8001

Moved this here, where it belongs:



This is yet another spam post in a section in which it doesn't belong.
You'd be better off reading posts instead of writing them. Then, you may just figure out why people are irritated.

This belongs in the main forum.

Lastly, if the cue builders are such big names, then why are the cues so under finished? Did their current orders slide to accommodate your builds? For the record, I'm not saying one wouldn't enjoy one of these, or that they don't play well. Both very well may be true. However, facts remain; a so called big builder(s) let under finished cues out of their shop, paying orders for customs slid, you made a complete shill of a marketing campaign, and you continue to spam the board.

For those coming to Deans aid: his past sales and exploits have no bearing on this subject. Jeff Forney had several successful sales before the bait-n-switch.

Comparing DEAN to forney is beyond absurd.

DEANS rep in the cue biz is, and will remain, EXCELLENT!!

DEAN has sold, bought and traded cues valued in seven digits since he ventured into the cue game as a HOBBY. Unlike others in the game he didn't rely on selling a cue to put food on his table which is one of the reasons he has the confidence of those that know him.

[Snooker Theory]

Originally Posted by ribdoner

Comparing DEAN to forney is beyond absurd.

DEANS rep in the cue biz is, and will remain, EXCELLENT!!

DEAN has sold, bought and traded cues valued in seven digits since he ventured into the cue game as a HOBBY. Unlike others in the game he didn't rely on selling a cue to put food on his table which is one of the reasons he the confidence of those that know him.

How about comparing him to Leon Sly?
I think most of what you said about Dean would have also applied to Leon until the Harris debacle...

I remember Tommy defending Leon(whom he had purchased a high dollar cue from), that was until someone posted screenshots of their conversation with Leon which seemed to confirm what Harris said was true., LOL.

I do agree comparing Dean to Forney is a gross stretch, although comparing him to Sly seems perfectly fair. Dean's responses were even similiar to Slys.

[ribdoner]

Originally Posted by Snooker Theory

How about comparing him to Leon Sly?
I think most of what you said about Dean would have also applied to Leon until the Harris debacle...

I remember Tommy defending Leon until someone posted screenshots of their conversation with him, LOL.

It's not possible to compare DEAN to anyone, he's one of a kind.

[ideologist]

Originally Posted by Snooker Theory

How about comparing him to Leon Sly?
I think most of what you said about Dean would have also applied to Leon until the Harris debacle...

I remember Tommy defending Leon(whom he had purchased a high dollar cue from), that was until someone posted screenshots of their conversation with Leon which seemed to confirm what Harris said was true., LOL.

You mean "confirmed it"

Tommy was incredibly rude about the facts, because he didn't like them. Ah well.

[Snooker Theory]

Originally Posted by ideologist

You mean "confirmed it"

Tommy was incredibly rude about the facts, because he didn't like them. Ah well.

Don't want Leon to sue me, gotta avoid the libel, ROFLMAO, god wasn't Leon a toolbox in that thread, looks like we got another winner now though.

[Buster8001]

Originally Posted by ribdoner

Comparing DEAN to forney is beyond absurd.

DEANS rep in the cue biz is, and will remain, EXCELLENT!!

DEAN has sold, bought and traded cues valued in seven digits since he ventured into the cue game as a HOBBY. Unlike others in the game he didn't rely on selling a cue to put food on his table which is one of the reasons he the confidence of those that know him.

I've heard about Dean's past cue business ventures. And, let me tell you not all of them are above board. People in the cue world know. It's no disrespect to call a crook a crook. The lesser of two evils, is still evil.