nice cue buddy, being 100% objective-I think that we tied. you would have won because its the only cue like it ever-Gilbert is building that style of cue-makes that Gina I had look like a joke thats why I dumped it, it looks horrible compaired to your new cue. congrats. I'll email you pics, the cue I have is the best looking cue I have ever seen, for a traditional cue, you have thebest looking non-traditional cue.